Is KANG Actually Dead? Victor Timely's Loki Return EXPLAINED

Is Kang Actually dead at the end of Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania? Or is he going to return in LOKI as a "variant" named Victor Timely?

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Written by Colton Ogburn (https://twitter.com/ColtonOgburn)
Hosted by Ryan Arey (http://twitter.com/ryanarey)

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Phase 5 of the MCU has officially begun with Ant Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. This movie introduced us to the Multiverse Saga’s big bad, Kang the Conqueror. But is this the same Kang we’ll see take on the Avengers in Avengers The Kang Dynasty? And if so, where did he go after being sucked into his power core in Quantumania?

Well, we think the 2nd post credit scene may have revealed just that. We think Kang definitely survived, and that he’s hiding on earth in the early 20th century.

Doug: Oh you’re talking about the Victor Timely guy.

That’s right, in this post credit scene for Quantumania we saw a scene from Loki season 2. This scene featured the Kang Variant, Victor Timely. And after this scene the screen reads “Kang will return.” Now sure, this could be in reference to one of his many variants we saw in the first post credit scene, but I don’t think so. I think this is in reference to this specific Kang from Quantumania.

Now in the comics, Victor Timely is a Kang that traveled back in time to the early 20th century. This was after he suffered an embarrassing defeat in Avengers Annual 21. [clip]

Kang travels back in time to 20th Century Wisconsin and it is there that he establishes the town of Timely. He becomes the mayor of the town and creates an impressive and innovative company that rapidly advances technology, specifically his time traveling technology. Which he seems to be giving a presentation for in this post credit scene. He’s got a real Thomas Ediison vibe about him, and that’s because the whole thing is a facade.

You see, in the comics, Victor Timely isn’t really a “variant” of Kang the Conqueror, he’s a disguise. [clip]

So we think we’re seeing something similar play out here in the MCU. Following an embarrassing defeat by Ant Man and the Wasp, Kang finds himself falling through a time vortex and crash landing in the early 20th century.

Avengers Endgame confirmed that via the Quantum Realm, one can travel through time and universes. Tony Stark’s time machine gave the Avengers the ability to control where they go. But with Kang being sucked into his power core, he could have landed anywhere in the time stream.

Keep in mind that this power core when paired with his chair gave Kang the ability to travel through all of existence. The power core is what provides, well, the power. And the chair was used to dial in where he wants to go, like the Quantum Suits in Endgame. [clip]

In the comics, Timely, Wisconsin is quantum entangled with Kang’s City of Chronopolis. Chronpolis being what inspired Kang’s Quantum Realm kingdom that we see in Qunatumania. So, with these two places being entangled in the comics, I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that they’re entangled in the movies as well.

This quantum entanglement could have been formed when Kang was sucked into the power core and he randomly landed in 20th Century Wisconsin. This could have left behind a quantum connection between the two places. Similar to how Scott was linked to the Quantum Realm and Janet after he went subatomic in the first Ant Man movie. [clip]

Doug: But person, I thought when Kang got sucked into that power core he died?

Oh buddy there’s no way he’s dead, and the movie basically confirmed that he survived. [clip, he’s alive!]

In our first post credit scene we get the MCU debut of the Council of Kang’s. We meet characters like Immortus, Rama Tut, and maybe the Scarlet Centurion? We’ve actually got a video breaking down that post credit scene, so be sure to check that out.

Anyway, in that post credit scene we hear Rama Tut ask “are you sure he’s dead?” This is the 2nd time the movie questions if Kang really died. Just a few minutes earlier we hear Scott eerily ask himself “we did beat him, right? I mean yeah that’s what happened. He was getting out, and he didn’t get out… I think.”

But even if these scenes weren’t in the film, I’d still be certain that Kang wasn’t dead. Because when a time traveling multiverse villain gets sucked into a power core meant for multiversal travel, he’s not dead, his journey has only just begun. [clip, Walking Dead Negan “I’m just getting started”]

And then when the filmmakers go out of their way to make sure the audience questions whether Kang really died, you know they’re setting up his return.

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