142: The Volume Debate w/ Lyle Mcdonald & Mike Israetel
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Lyle & Mike get into a highly anticipated debate about the '45 Set Study' by Brad Schoenfeld. Furthermore, they get into a discussion about general volume recommendations, intensity, study designs and much more.
Timestamps:
02:14 Lyle starts off with his take on the "Volume Study"
05:58 Mike response to Lyle's first critique on doing a blinded study
10:37 Lyle & Mike get into a discussion about Brad's study design and its conclusion
16:25 Lyle starts bringing up his second point of critique, that the study didn't support the conclusion
19:46 Lyle & Mike are moving on to the next point, which is the critique about statistics of the study
24:17 Mike's take on the criticism Lyle brought up about there being no statistical significance because the P-value doesn't support the dose-response claim
25:17 Lyle brings up the p-value and Bayesian method to refute the conclusion
29:38 Mike talks about statistical methodologies, limitations and is by that, responding to Lyle's points. Further, he brings up the question of 'why to put that much stock into one study?'
36:03 Lyle replies to Mike's point and asks him if Mike feels the statistics support the conclusion
42:08 Lyle & Mike get into a discussion around limitations in studies in exercise science
44:42 Both move on talking about frequency about training
47:52 Lyle brings up differences in data and why studies haven't addressed those
51:32 Mike addresses the data differences between studies such as Schoenfeld vs. Ostrowski
58:26 Mike brings up criticism to the Ostrowski study
01:03:21 Mike starts with stating his viewpoints
01:07:25 Mike response to Lyle's question about the rationale for Mike's volume landmark
01:11:45 Lyle shares his take on Mike's volume recommendation and asks for Mike to elaborate on intensity recommendations
01:18:59 Lyle speaks about his take on intensity recommendations
01:24:25 Both get back into a general discussion around volume recommendations for different body parts
01:30:19 Lyle brings up a good question if getting stronger becomes a detriment
01:34:36 Lyle talks about different volume recommendations for different populations
Discussed Studies and links:
Schoenfeld et al: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27433992
Radaelli et al: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25546444
Haun et al: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2018.00084/full
Ostrowski: https://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Abstract/1997/08000/The_Effect_of_Weight_Training_Volume_on_Hormonal.3
https://bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/a-challenge-to-brad-schoenfeld-and-others.html/
https://weightology.net/responding-to-critiques-of-our-volume-study/?fbclid=IwAR2rAlLzEza_eUD2UoFSIl16kWJe2tAKkCJyMvLzE82W56L9Rq3YmlPRaAA
https://weightology.net/lessons-in-confirmation-bias-double-standards-strawmen-edema-blinding-and-research-critiques-my-final-response-on-our-volume-study/?fbclid=IwAR1nsOWuRdtMPUvQ0b_sNkpJNieNwos7WEyW9Wj4AfHX6tQnYbksOvUR5Aw
https://www.facebook.com/james.krieger1/posts/10155723383298587?hc_location=ufi
https://bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/research-review-training/a-response-to-james-krieger.html/
https://www.reddit.com/r/weightroom/comments/9i9h0j/the_schoenfeld_volume_study_results_do_not/
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Видео 142: The Volume Debate w/ Lyle Mcdonald & Mike Israetel канала Revive Stronger
Lyle & Mike get into a highly anticipated debate about the '45 Set Study' by Brad Schoenfeld. Furthermore, they get into a discussion about general volume recommendations, intensity, study designs and much more.
Timestamps:
02:14 Lyle starts off with his take on the "Volume Study"
05:58 Mike response to Lyle's first critique on doing a blinded study
10:37 Lyle & Mike get into a discussion about Brad's study design and its conclusion
16:25 Lyle starts bringing up his second point of critique, that the study didn't support the conclusion
19:46 Lyle & Mike are moving on to the next point, which is the critique about statistics of the study
24:17 Mike's take on the criticism Lyle brought up about there being no statistical significance because the P-value doesn't support the dose-response claim
25:17 Lyle brings up the p-value and Bayesian method to refute the conclusion
29:38 Mike talks about statistical methodologies, limitations and is by that, responding to Lyle's points. Further, he brings up the question of 'why to put that much stock into one study?'
36:03 Lyle replies to Mike's point and asks him if Mike feels the statistics support the conclusion
42:08 Lyle & Mike get into a discussion around limitations in studies in exercise science
44:42 Both move on talking about frequency about training
47:52 Lyle brings up differences in data and why studies haven't addressed those
51:32 Mike addresses the data differences between studies such as Schoenfeld vs. Ostrowski
58:26 Mike brings up criticism to the Ostrowski study
01:03:21 Mike starts with stating his viewpoints
01:07:25 Mike response to Lyle's question about the rationale for Mike's volume landmark
01:11:45 Lyle shares his take on Mike's volume recommendation and asks for Mike to elaborate on intensity recommendations
01:18:59 Lyle speaks about his take on intensity recommendations
01:24:25 Both get back into a general discussion around volume recommendations for different body parts
01:30:19 Lyle brings up a good question if getting stronger becomes a detriment
01:34:36 Lyle talks about different volume recommendations for different populations
Discussed Studies and links:
Schoenfeld et al: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27433992
Radaelli et al: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25546444
Haun et al: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2018.00084/full
Ostrowski: https://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Abstract/1997/08000/The_Effect_of_Weight_Training_Volume_on_Hormonal.3
https://bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/a-challenge-to-brad-schoenfeld-and-others.html/
https://weightology.net/responding-to-critiques-of-our-volume-study/?fbclid=IwAR2rAlLzEza_eUD2UoFSIl16kWJe2tAKkCJyMvLzE82W56L9Rq3YmlPRaAA
https://weightology.net/lessons-in-confirmation-bias-double-standards-strawmen-edema-blinding-and-research-critiques-my-final-response-on-our-volume-study/?fbclid=IwAR1nsOWuRdtMPUvQ0b_sNkpJNieNwos7WEyW9Wj4AfHX6tQnYbksOvUR5Aw
https://www.facebook.com/james.krieger1/posts/10155723383298587?hc_location=ufi
https://bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/research-review-training/a-response-to-james-krieger.html/
https://www.reddit.com/r/weightroom/comments/9i9h0j/the_schoenfeld_volume_study_results_do_not/
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RP Books
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RP + Members site
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For more
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