Explaining Medicare For All To Conservatives

How should leftists approach one-on-one conversations about Medicare For All and healthcare with conservatives in the United States? Sam Seder and the Majority Report crew discuss this.

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CALLER: There's a lot of conservative folks in southern Illinois and i i was kind of wondering how in a in a person-to-person conversation do you think you can uh explain medicare for all and the reasoning behind it and get across kind of you know the reasoning also uh why it could uh be kind of like a public good uh for people

SAM SEDER: well i would start with you know i mean i think the the um what has happened in this country is that it's been sort of like uh presented as if it was something that is like incredibly radical and so i would start with the you know making sure that whoever you're speaking with knows that like you know we have 45 to 60 million really i mean 60 million people who are on medicare already we have um another like what is it 80 million that is that are on medicaid so we already have almost half of the country on a single-payer healthcare system but it only gets more efficient with the more people that you bring into the risk pool and so that's where i would i would start and the people who are on medicaid are in higher risk categories so bringing in a larger population of people who are you know younger whatever the case may be would do to have that effect yeah right now we have for the most part between medicare and medicaid you know theoretically the the most likely to you know get ill and need it older people and people living in in lower income um and so it really is uh and people love both those programs frankly uh people who are on them and it would uh the the increase in efficiency would allow for more offerings and as a society right if you don't contemplate like what are we paying in the private sector what are we playing in the public sector as a society we would pay less for health care and get better outcomes um i mean that's where i would start and then i would just say like you know contemplate the idea of going to the doctor and not worrying about cost and also not worrying that maybe your doctor is prescribing a um a medicine or a procedure or even an examination that is a function of what is most profitable for them because that's actually the reality too there was a great piece by atul gawande it's like 15 years ago now about two two towns in texas and one was just the rates were just much more expensive and it would just so happen that the doctors owned you know different medical equipment that you know if you know if i've if i own my own hammer then everything's a nail and um i you know even if it's a subconscious that they're that's what they they you know that's what tends to happen so i would say just not as radical as one would be led to believe in this country we have and that doesn't even include the va which of course has is is not just a single payer of health care it's actually a government-run provider of healthcare it's i mean it's full-on socialized medicine as opposed to just insurance that's where i'd start okay yeah i mean i generally start with folks especially around here uh i mean i know what the people focus on i try to start with the underlying reasoning as to why single-payer healthcare would be good on an individual level because you don't have a choice to enter the market necessarily for oncology services for instance you kind of just need it uh so i try to do that first but i think maybe you know what you say is probably a uh yeah i mean i think you're presenting it that way is more complicated i think people just want to not not be afraid of it and the reason why they shouldn't be afraid of it is because medicare you know who's not psyched about medicare yeah i mean nobody right i mean honestly like not very many yeah i mean it's certainly that you know you can say like ask your parents or ask your grandparents what they think about medicare is there some difficulty which is better let's put it that way private insurance or medicare right i mean it's yeah i i don't it's slam dunk i think and it's just like why not for everybody i appreciate the call

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