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Avoiding Chaos in Org Design – Strategy Before Structure with Shannon Horne

n this episode of the Org Design Podcast, recorded live at the Org Design Festival, hosts Tim Brewer and Amy Springer sit down with Shannon Horne, HR leader and transformation specialist, to explore the realities of organizational design inside a global company of 11,000 employees.

Shannon shares her journey into org design, the challenges of turning strategy into structure, and why confusion, turnover, and missed ROI often come when org design is treated as an afterthought. She offers practical insights on creating healthier org design cultures—where employees feel secure, leaders are transparent, and talent is repurposed rather than lost.

For leaders wondering if they have an org design problem on their hands, Shannon also gives her “friend-to-friend” advice: start with discovery before restructuring, and ask whether the issue is really structure—or something deeper.

This episode is packed with real-world transformation lessons and practical tips for executives, HR professionals, and organizational designers who want to avoid chaos and build resilient, people-centered organizations.

00:00 - Introduction to the Org Design Podcast and guest Shannon Horne
00:26 - Shannon's background and journey to org design
01:43 - Overview of Shannon's current organization and transformation efforts
02:03 - Size and structure of Shannon's organization
03:40 - Engagement with teams and sources of work challenges
05:27 - Importance of strategic decisions and employee engagement scores
05:58 - Consequences of neglecting org design
07:24 - Listening to employees and cultivating a healthy org design culture
10:41 - Practical advice for leaders facing org design challenges
12:41 - Conclusion and closing remarks

Shannon Horne
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonhorne/

Functionly
https://www.linkedin.com/company/functionly
https://www.functionly.com/

Org Design Podcast
https://www.linkedin.com/company/orgdesignpodcast
https://www.functionly.com/org-design-podcast

Organization Design Forum
https://organizationdesignforum.org/

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