“Not By PODCASTERS!” Kevin Sabet Blasts Trump’s Psychedelic Drug Order

Kevin Sabet and Dr. Matt Johnson join Rav Arora on the Illusion of Consensus podcast to debate Trump’s psychedelic executive order, ibogaine research, FDA approval, and the future of drug policy.

Sabet, a former White House drug policy adviser and co-founder of Smart Approaches to Marijuana, argues that psychedelic medicine is being pushed ahead of the evidence, with risks around ibogaine, MDMA, marijuana rescheduling, and commercial incentives being downplayed.

Dr. Johnson, a Johns Hopkins psychedelic researcher known for major work on psilocybin, addiction, and clinical safety, argues that accelerated research can still follow rigorous FDA standards while addressing urgent unmet needs.

They discuss Joe Rogan’s influence, RFK Jr., Schedule I research barriers, Right to Try, veterans’ access, MAPS, mental health treatment, cannabis policy, and whether psychedelics are being shaped more by science, politics, or popular media.

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