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Environment Variables Podcast | Ep 114 Real Time Cloud with Adrian Cockcroft

Chris Adams is joined by Adrian Cockcroft, former VP of Cloud Architecture Strategy at AWS, a pioneer of microservices at Netflix, and contributor to the Green Software Foundation’s Real Time Cloud project. They explore the evolution of cloud sustainability—from monoliths to microservices to serverless—and what it really takes to track carbon emissions in real time. Adrian explains why GPUs offer rare transparency in energy data, how the Real Time Cloud dataset works, and what’s holding cloud providers back from full carbon disclosure. Plus, he shares his latest obsession: building a generative AI-powered house automation system using agent swarms.

Learn more about our people:

* Chris Adams: [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrchrisadams/) | [GitHub](https://github.com/mrchrisadams) | [Website](https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/)
* Adrian Cockcroft: [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancockcroft/) |[ GitHub](https://github.com/adrianco) |[ ](https://adrian.co/)[Medium](https://adrianco.medium.com/)

Find out more about the GSF:

* [The Green Software Foundation Website](https://greensoftware.foundation/)
* Sign up to the [Green Software Foundation Newsletter](https://greensoftware.foundation/)

Resources:

* [Serverless vs. Microservices vs. Monolith](https://medium.com/@adrianco/the-evolution-from-monoliths-to-microservices-to-functions-aa7b2b1a7f5e) – Adrian's influential blog post [08:08]
* [Monitorama 2022: Monitoring Carbon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVv6jLJzD-E) – Adrian’s talk at Monitorama Portland [25:08]
* [Real Time Cloud Project – Green Software Foundation](https://github.com/Green-Software-Foundation/real-time-cloud) [30:23]
* [Google Cloud Sustainability Report (2024)](https://www.gstatic.com/gumdrop/sustainability/Google2024EnvironmentalReport.pdf) – Includes regional carbon data [33:39]
* [Microsoft Sustainability Report](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sustainability/emissions-impact-dashboard) [36:49]
* [AWS Sustainability Practices](https://sustainability.aboutamazon.com/) & [AWS Customer Carbon Footprint Tool](https://aws.amazon.com/aws-cost-management/aws-customer-carbon-footprint-tool/) [39:59]
* [Kepler – Kubernetes-based Efficient Power Level Exporter](https://github.com/sustainable-computing-io/kepler) [48:01]
* [Focus – FinOps Sustainability Working Group](https://www.finops.org/wg/sustainability/) [50:10]
* [Agent Swarm by Reuven Cohen](https://www.linkedin.com/in/reuvencohen/) – AI agent-based coding framework [01:05:01]
* [Claude AI by Anthropic](https://claude.ai/) [01:05:32]
* [GitHub Codespaces](https://github.com/features/codespaces) [01:11:47]
* [Soopra AI – Chat with an AI trained on Adrian’s blog](https://app.soopra.ai/Cockcroft) [01:17:01]

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