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Inside Harvey AI: CEO Winston Weinberg on How a 4-Year-Old Company Is Taking on the Foundation Labs
Winston Weinberg is the CEO and co-founder of Harvey, the $11 billion AI platform now used by 2/3 of the AmLaw 100 and 500+ in-house legal teams including HSBC, Bridgewater, Carvana, and Blue Owl.
"I think every single company is going to sell intelligence."
In this episode, Winston walks me through Harvey's San Francisco HQ and then sits down to break down the state of the business: roughly $300M ARR (up from $100M last August), 2,000 customers, 960 employees across 12 global offices, and token usage that jumped from 1 trillion in January to a projected 12-13 trillion this month.
"It feels like if you do not constantly change, you are just gonna get so behind that you die as a company right now."
Winston covers the shift to cloud agents, why Harvey's real competition is the foundation labs (not other legal tech companies), how to reinvent a company every 6 months, the future of vertical models, the billable hour problem coming for every AI buyer, and why every company will eventually sell intelligence.
Winston Weinberg: https://x.com/winstonweinberg
Molly O’Shea: https://x.com/MollySOShea
Sourcery: https://x.com/sourceryy
𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/inside-harvey-ai-%2411b-%24300m-arr-960-employees-12-offices/id1738124704?i=1000772944695
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7B2lLyUS9h8zV8tuj6S6VF?si=KHOESMxGSn-qlgohTY4PSw
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• Brex—The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel. https://brex.com/sourcery
• Turing—Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-ready systems. https://turing.com/sourcery
• VCX—VCX is the public ticker for private tech, allowing investors of all sizes to invest in venture capital. View The Portfolio at http://GetVCX.com
• Deel—Deel is the global people platform that helps startups hire, manage, pay, and equip anyone, anywhere. Trusted by more than 35,000 fast-growing companies, Deel is the people platform that just works, so teams can scale without the chaos. Visit: https://www.deel.com/sourcery
• Public–Investing platform Public just launched Generated Assets, which lets you turn any idea into an investable index with AI. With Generated Assets, you can build, backtest, refine, and invest in any thesis with AI. Gone are the days of one-size-fits-all ETFs. https://public.com/sourcery
• Merge—The leading provider of customer-facing integrations and agentic tools for frontier LLMs, Fortune 500 organizations, and B2B SaaS companies. Visit https://merge.dev
Follow Sourcery for the latest updates!
https://www.sourcery.vc
Disclosure
Paid Endorsement. Brokerage services by Open to the Public Investing Inc, member FINRA & SIPC. Advisory services by Public Advisors LLC, SEC-registered adviser. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash LLC, licensed by the NYSDFS. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool by Public Advisors. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. See disclosures at public.com/disclosures/ga. Matched funds must remain in your account for at least 5 years. Match rate and other terms are subject to change at any time.
𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒
(00:00) Winston Weinberg, Co-Founder & CEO at Harvey
(00:45) Inside Harvey HQ
(03:17) Harvey by the numbers
(04:11) How Harvey expands globally
(05:16) Why Harvey employs 200+ lawyers
(06:30) The philosophy behind Harvey's office
(07:35) The loudest lunch culture in tech
(09:03) Winston's favorite room
(10:04) Eight Airbnbs before a real office
(12:58) Inside a $300M ARR company
(14:20) Tripling revenue in under a year
(15:35) What $1B+ unlocks
(17:36) Building an AI native company
(21:10) Convincing lawyers to join tech
(22:14) The biggest adjustment for lawyers in tech
(23:26) Build vs buy
(26:59) What SaaS got away with that AI can't
(28:39) Financing 13 trillion tokens
(30:05) Why the labs can't just copy Harvey
(31:18) Competing with OpenAI and Anthropic
(32:03) Will the labs start acquiring?
(32:50) Does every task need frontier intelligence?
(34:23) Why legal benchmarks are broken
(35:30) Ordering the same meal 467 times
Видео Inside Harvey AI: CEO Winston Weinberg on How a 4-Year-Old Company Is Taking on the Foundation Labs канала Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
"I think every single company is going to sell intelligence."
In this episode, Winston walks me through Harvey's San Francisco HQ and then sits down to break down the state of the business: roughly $300M ARR (up from $100M last August), 2,000 customers, 960 employees across 12 global offices, and token usage that jumped from 1 trillion in January to a projected 12-13 trillion this month.
"It feels like if you do not constantly change, you are just gonna get so behind that you die as a company right now."
Winston covers the shift to cloud agents, why Harvey's real competition is the foundation labs (not other legal tech companies), how to reinvent a company every 6 months, the future of vertical models, the billable hour problem coming for every AI buyer, and why every company will eventually sell intelligence.
Winston Weinberg: https://x.com/winstonweinberg
Molly O’Shea: https://x.com/MollySOShea
Sourcery: https://x.com/sourceryy
𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/inside-harvey-ai-%2411b-%24300m-arr-960-employees-12-offices/id1738124704?i=1000772944695
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7B2lLyUS9h8zV8tuj6S6VF?si=KHOESMxGSn-qlgohTY4PSw
𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒
• Brex—The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel. https://brex.com/sourcery
• Turing—Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-ready systems. https://turing.com/sourcery
• VCX—VCX is the public ticker for private tech, allowing investors of all sizes to invest in venture capital. View The Portfolio at http://GetVCX.com
• Deel—Deel is the global people platform that helps startups hire, manage, pay, and equip anyone, anywhere. Trusted by more than 35,000 fast-growing companies, Deel is the people platform that just works, so teams can scale without the chaos. Visit: https://www.deel.com/sourcery
• Public–Investing platform Public just launched Generated Assets, which lets you turn any idea into an investable index with AI. With Generated Assets, you can build, backtest, refine, and invest in any thesis with AI. Gone are the days of one-size-fits-all ETFs. https://public.com/sourcery
• Merge—The leading provider of customer-facing integrations and agentic tools for frontier LLMs, Fortune 500 organizations, and B2B SaaS companies. Visit https://merge.dev
Follow Sourcery for the latest updates!
https://www.sourcery.vc
Disclosure
Paid Endorsement. Brokerage services by Open to the Public Investing Inc, member FINRA & SIPC. Advisory services by Public Advisors LLC, SEC-registered adviser. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash LLC, licensed by the NYSDFS. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool by Public Advisors. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. See disclosures at public.com/disclosures/ga. Matched funds must remain in your account for at least 5 years. Match rate and other terms are subject to change at any time.
𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒
(00:00) Winston Weinberg, Co-Founder & CEO at Harvey
(00:45) Inside Harvey HQ
(03:17) Harvey by the numbers
(04:11) How Harvey expands globally
(05:16) Why Harvey employs 200+ lawyers
(06:30) The philosophy behind Harvey's office
(07:35) The loudest lunch culture in tech
(09:03) Winston's favorite room
(10:04) Eight Airbnbs before a real office
(12:58) Inside a $300M ARR company
(14:20) Tripling revenue in under a year
(15:35) What $1B+ unlocks
(17:36) Building an AI native company
(21:10) Convincing lawyers to join tech
(22:14) The biggest adjustment for lawyers in tech
(23:26) Build vs buy
(26:59) What SaaS got away with that AI can't
(28:39) Financing 13 trillion tokens
(30:05) Why the labs can't just copy Harvey
(31:18) Competing with OpenAI and Anthropic
(32:03) Will the labs start acquiring?
(32:50) Does every task need frontier intelligence?
(34:23) Why legal benchmarks are broken
(35:30) Ordering the same meal 467 times
Видео Inside Harvey AI: CEO Winston Weinberg on How a 4-Year-Old Company Is Taking on the Foundation Labs канала Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
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