Landmines: Harm is NOT inevitable. Summit Talks with Erik Tollefsen

In this inaugural episode of Summit Talks, we welcome ICRC diplomat and field expert Erik Tollefsen, who has worked in conflict zones across the world. With Beatrice, Erik unpacks the history, tackles the misconceptions and reveals all the latest evidence-based information about landmines and weapon contamination.

0:00 – Welcome to Summit Talks (Podcast at 1800m!)
0:39 – Introducing Erik Tollefsen & the ICRC
1:36 – What Is “Weapons Contamination”?
2:27 – What Are Landmines? Origins & Evolution
4:30 – Anti-Personnel vs Anti-Vehicle Mines Explained
5:39 – The Core Problem: Civilians & Long-Term Danger
7:05 – Movie Myths vs The Brutal Reality
8:18 – Civilian Casualties & Post-Conflict Accidents
10:20 – The 1997 Mine Ban (Ottawa) Treaty
12:20 – Why Casualties Are Rising Again
14:13 – European Withdrawals & Security Fears
15:23 – Military Utility: Do Landmines Actually Work?
19:43 – “Smart” Mines & The Self-Destruct Myth
22:58 – Ukraine, Unexploded Ordnance & The Scale of Contamination
31:04 – Are Landmines Cheap? The Real Cost Debate
39:06 – Success Stories, Justice & Why the Treaty Still Matters
43:29 – Final Reflections & Descent from the Summit
44:10 – Credits

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Executive Producers: Beatrice Fihn, Emma Pikes
Produced by Theus Productions
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