John Donvan In Conversation with David McRaney on the Science of Changing Minds

What’s it take to change a mind? It turns out there is a science to it. That’s at least according to David McRaney, a journalist, author, and host of the You Are Not So Smart podcast. The first step, he says, is don’t overtly try to win. In any argument, an attempt to defeat the opposing party is not nearly as effective as leading the person along in stages, which eventually align with your own thinking. In fact, mere exposure to different ideas, according a recent Pew study, does not generally change most Americans’ perspectives on a given issue. Understanding techniques to communicate successfully and proactively active listen, is ultimately thought to be a more effective approach. Intelligence Squared US, since 2026, has made fostering intellectual openness in dialogue a core part of its mission. In that context, and to get a sense of what other methods are out there, John Donvan sat down with David McRaney on the science of changing minds.


David McRaney, Science Journalist and Author, How Minds Change

David McRaney is an author and science journalist fascinated with brains, minds and culture. Most recently, he wrote How Minds Change: The Surprising Science of Belief, Opinion and Persuasion. He hosts a podcast that started as a blog in 2009 and evolved into the international bestselling book, You Are Not So Smart. On the eponymous show he continues to interview scientists who study the psychology of reason, decision making and judgment. He has also written, produced and recorded a six-hour documentary exploring the history and meaning of the word ‘genius.’ In the intervening years, he has been an editor, photographer, voiceover artist, television host, journalism teacher, lecturer and tornado survivor.


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