Mormon Stories #1339: Dr. Robert Ritner - An Expert Egyptologist Translates the Book of Abraham Pt 1

We discuss the Book of Abraham which is a book of scripture from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day saints (Mormon Church or LDS church)

See link for a full description of this epic interview: https://bit.ly/2ZMtRSh

URGENT: Dr. Ritner is facing kidney failure and is in need of a living donor to secure his life and continued research. If you can help, please contact Dana McClain, Northwestern Medicine Transplant Coordinator, 312-695-0828. Living donors save lives!

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**INTRODUCTIONS**
00:00:00 Introduction to video
00:02:24 Introduction to RFM
00:03:06 Introduction to Dr. Ritner

**DR. RITNER’S BACKGROUND**
00:04:50 Contact info for kidney donation (Dana McClain 312-695-0828)
00:05:21 Official title
00:06:00 Educational background
00:06:35 University of Chicago’s importance to the field of Egyptology
00:10:15 Growing up in Houston
00:14:25 Current profession
00:16:31 Parent’s view of his career choice
00:20:00 Training background and specialty
00:25:25 Professional relationship with Claus Behr
00:26:40 Professional connection with Mormon apologist John Gee

**HISTORY**
00:28:28 Modern Egyptology begins with Napoleonic Conquest 1798
00:29:25 Description de l’Egypte
00:30:30 Rosetta Stone deciphered 1820’s
00:34:15 Mummies shipped to NY to find buyer
00:34:51 Traveling salesman Michael Chandler acquires mummies
00:35:35 Sales pitch of Michael Chandler
00:36:18 Interesting Segway into Mormonism
00:36:40 Ohioan’s knowledge of Egypt ~1830
00:37:30 Any theories where “Reformed Egyptian” might come from?
00:40:50 Is “Reformed Egyptian” related to any stage of Egyptian language?
00:42:41 RFM’s apologist view of “Reformed Egyptian”
00:44:25 BOM language development proposal vs historical fact
00:47:44 Are Egyptian and Hebrew languages related?
00:49:15 Smoking gun of “Reformed Egyptian”
00:56:27 D&C Section 21 Joseph’s special powers
00:58:12 Historical context of items Michael Chandler brought to Kirkland
01:03:12 Documents used in translation of BOA
01:11:11 Egyptian influences to Masonic influences to Mormon ceremonies?
01:14:16 Timeline of Abraham’s potential existence vs timeline of BOA scrolls
01:24:35 Historical absurdity of Abraham Chapter 1 verse 20
01:29:37 Could Abraham have migrated to Egypt and written BOA?
01:32:01 The Church’s BOA Essay states papyri has no correlation with Abraham
01:35:22 Logic says “case closed!”

**TRANSITION INTO A DEEPER DIVE OF BOOK OF ABRAHAM **
01:36:40 Apologists’ contortion of documents is unscholarly
01:37:52 Contact info for kidney donation (Dana McClain 312-695-0828)
01:39:03 Brief history of mummies and scrolls purchased by Joseph
01:42:45 PSA: Please reference visuals if listening to audio only version

**FACSIMILE 1**
01:43:28 Facsimile 1
01:43:44 Dr. Ritner describes Facsimile 1 as shown
01:46:55 RFM explains Joseph’s claims about Facsimile 1
01:48:02 Dr. Ritner’s analysis of “The Original” source text
01:54:10 Comparison of Joseph’s Facsimile vs an undamaged reconstruction
01:59:09 Joseph’s interpretation vs Modern Egyptological Interpretation
01:59:50 #1
02:02:06 #2
02:03:31 #3
02:05:00 #4
02:07:42 #5 #6 #7 and #8
02:07:55 Problems with Joseph naming canopic jars
02:08:42 John Gee’s “Four Sons of Horus” concludes Joseph was correct
02:09:42 Dr. Ritner’s response to John Gee’s assertions
02:11:38 John Gee leaves out Egyptian names of Horus’ four sons in his paper
02:12:27 #9
02:17:49 #10
02:21:20 Summation of Hugh Nibley’s argument
02:24:00 Did Egyptian theology influence Christian doctrine?
02:28:50 #11
02:29:51 #12
02:32:17 RFM’s commentary on apologetics for Facsimile 1
02:34:26 John Dehlin’s commentary on The Church’s deception
02:37:01 Dr. Ritner’s response to The Church’s deception
02:39:04 John Dehlin quotes Dalin H Oaks about church apologetics
02:40:40 Dr. Ritner’s stance on John Gee
02:41:15 RFM clarifies that Oaks was quoting Austin Farrar
02:42:08 Additional images to help you understand Facsimile 1
02:42:30 Supporting image #1
02:44:52 Line drawing of supporting image #1
02:46:00 Supporting image #2
02:47:00 Supporting image #3
02:52:30 Supporting image #4 from Wikipedia “Four sons of Horus”
02:54:03 Supporting image #5 Book of the Dead 151
02:58:37 RFM “Can four sons represent four cardinal directions?”
02:59:15 Dr. Ritner's response
02:59:28 RFM states apologists’ stance on four sons
03:00:41 Supporting image #6 - John Gee/magical papyrus
03:07:50 Tying image #6 to Mormon apologetics
03:09:20 RFM further explains apologetic connection
03:12:00 Is it reasonable for PhD apologists to attempt Abraham connection?
03:13:25 Dr. Ritner’s response
03:17:00 RFM disappointed in Kerry Muhlstein
03:17:45 Lion Couch scene video clip with Kerry Mulhstein
03:18:46 Dr. Ritner’s response to Kerry Mulhstein video clip
03:24:45 Dr. Ritner speaks to Mormon Stories listeners
03:26:24 John Dehlin’s closing
03:31:21 END

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