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The Debugging Book • Andreas Zeller & Clare Sudbery • GOTO 2025
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. #GOTOcon #GOTObookclub
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Read the full transcription of the interview here:
https://gotopia.tech/episodes/387
Prof. Andreas Zeller - Faculty at CISPA Helmholtz Center for Information Security & Author of "The Debugging Book" @Doebldodl
Clare Sudbery - Independent Technical Coach @ClareSudberySSELtd
RESOURCES
Andreas
https://bsky.app/profile/andreaszeller.bsky.social
https://mastodon.social/@AndreasZeller
https://github.com/andreas-zeller
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreaszeller
https://andreas-zeller.info
Clare
https://bsky.app/profile/claresudbery.bsky.social
https://twitter.com/ClareSudbery
https://linkedin.com/in/clare-sudbery-she-her-35939540
https://mastodon.social/@claresudbery
https://www.madetech.com/podcast
https://insimpleterms.blog
Links
https://www.debuggingbook.org
https://github.com/uds-se/debuggingbook
https://hub.2i2c.mybinder.org/user/uds-se-debuggingbook-06yfdm2t/doc/tree/docs/notebooks/00_Table_of_Contents.ipynb
https://www.st.cs.uni-saarland.de/dd
https://youtu.be/30jNsCVLpAE
https://youtu.be/LvhIMkr0rXg
https://youtu.be/8bPDiuJGGh0
https://youtu.be/lWPLgm52ICs
https://youtu.be/4mRxIgu9R70
https://youtu.be/n7QUBt6qsUU
https://youtu.be/RNBpqbxhrng
https://youtu.be/lCZtgN7b4TE
https://youtu.be/sLjSGrkbIFw
https://youtu.be/VwPCtxxvwjI
DESCRIPTION
Programming education has a critical blind spot: while we extensively teach code creation, we barely scratch the surface of testing and give almost no attention to debugging—despite debugging consuming half of all software development time.
In this conversation with Clare Sudbery, Prof. Andreas Zeller argues that systematic debugging skills and modern automated debugging tools are the "ugly stepchild" of programming that nobody wants to discuss, yet debugging represents the biggest business risk and time sink in software development. As AI-driven coding becomes more prevalent, this gap will only widen, making investment in proper debugging education and tools not just beneficial but essential for the future of software development.
TIMECODES
00:00 Intro
02:53 Revolutionizing tech education: The executable book format
11:17 What "The Debugging Book" teaches
16:01 Interactive debuggers & advanced techniques
21:31 Python as the language of choice
26:53 Tracking dependencies & Delta Debugging
34:55 Automated software repair & testing
51:09 Outro
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Andreas Zeller • The Debugging Book • https://www.debuggingbook.org
Sy Brand • Building a Debugger • https://amzn.to/4cWWr84
Charles Humble • Professional Skills for Software Engineers • https://www.conissaunce.com/professional-skills-shortcut
Cathy O'Neil • Weapons of Math Destruction • https://amzn.to/42jYkba
Jonathan B. Rosenberg • How Debuggers Work • https://amzn.to/3SnFHgv
Nora Sandler • Writing a C Compiler • https://amzn.to/3Z6SMhU
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#Debugging #Debugger #DeltaDebugging #StatisticalDebugging #Compiler #SoftwareRepair #SoftwareTesting #Testing #TDD #Refactoring #Python #TodayInTech #SoftwareDevelopment #SoftwareEngineering #Programming #AndreasZeller #ClareSudbery #BookClub
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Видео The Debugging Book • Andreas Zeller & Clare Sudbery • GOTO 2025 канала GOTO Conferences
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Read the full transcription of the interview here:
https://gotopia.tech/episodes/387
Prof. Andreas Zeller - Faculty at CISPA Helmholtz Center for Information Security & Author of "The Debugging Book" @Doebldodl
Clare Sudbery - Independent Technical Coach @ClareSudberySSELtd
RESOURCES
Andreas
https://bsky.app/profile/andreaszeller.bsky.social
https://mastodon.social/@AndreasZeller
https://github.com/andreas-zeller
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreaszeller
https://andreas-zeller.info
Clare
https://bsky.app/profile/claresudbery.bsky.social
https://twitter.com/ClareSudbery
https://linkedin.com/in/clare-sudbery-she-her-35939540
https://mastodon.social/@claresudbery
https://www.madetech.com/podcast
https://insimpleterms.blog
Links
https://www.debuggingbook.org
https://github.com/uds-se/debuggingbook
https://hub.2i2c.mybinder.org/user/uds-se-debuggingbook-06yfdm2t/doc/tree/docs/notebooks/00_Table_of_Contents.ipynb
https://www.st.cs.uni-saarland.de/dd
https://youtu.be/30jNsCVLpAE
https://youtu.be/LvhIMkr0rXg
https://youtu.be/8bPDiuJGGh0
https://youtu.be/lWPLgm52ICs
https://youtu.be/4mRxIgu9R70
https://youtu.be/n7QUBt6qsUU
https://youtu.be/RNBpqbxhrng
https://youtu.be/lCZtgN7b4TE
https://youtu.be/sLjSGrkbIFw
https://youtu.be/VwPCtxxvwjI
DESCRIPTION
Programming education has a critical blind spot: while we extensively teach code creation, we barely scratch the surface of testing and give almost no attention to debugging—despite debugging consuming half of all software development time.
In this conversation with Clare Sudbery, Prof. Andreas Zeller argues that systematic debugging skills and modern automated debugging tools are the "ugly stepchild" of programming that nobody wants to discuss, yet debugging represents the biggest business risk and time sink in software development. As AI-driven coding becomes more prevalent, this gap will only widen, making investment in proper debugging education and tools not just beneficial but essential for the future of software development.
TIMECODES
00:00 Intro
02:53 Revolutionizing tech education: The executable book format
11:17 What "The Debugging Book" teaches
16:01 Interactive debuggers & advanced techniques
21:31 Python as the language of choice
26:53 Tracking dependencies & Delta Debugging
34:55 Automated software repair & testing
51:09 Outro
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Andreas Zeller • The Debugging Book • https://www.debuggingbook.org
Sy Brand • Building a Debugger • https://amzn.to/4cWWr84
Charles Humble • Professional Skills for Software Engineers • https://www.conissaunce.com/professional-skills-shortcut
Cathy O'Neil • Weapons of Math Destruction • https://amzn.to/42jYkba
Jonathan B. Rosenberg • How Debuggers Work • https://amzn.to/3SnFHgv
Nora Sandler • Writing a C Compiler • https://amzn.to/3Z6SMhU
https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com
https://twitter.com/GOTOcon
https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-
https://www.instagram.com/goto_con
https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences
#Debugging #Debugger #DeltaDebugging #StatisticalDebugging #Compiler #SoftwareRepair #SoftwareTesting #Testing #TDD #Refactoring #Python #TodayInTech #SoftwareDevelopment #SoftwareEngineering #Programming #AndreasZeller #ClareSudbery #BookClub
CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS
Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join
Looking for a unique learning experience?
Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket at https://gotopia.tech
Sign up for updates and specials at https://gotopia.tech/newsletter
SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNEL - new videos posted almost daily.
https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1
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