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Everything Is 027 | Everything is Fine Print & the Blueprint
Episode 027 — Everything Is Fine Print and the Blueprint.
Everybody talks about step one — getting free from the label system, owning your masters, building independent. Tonight on Everything Is, Chris and Chidi talk about step two. What happens after you own it? And what happens when the people who built it with you want a piece of what you built?
VINCE STAPLES — THE BLUEPRINT FOR HOW TO DO IT RIGHT
Vince Staples just dropped Cry Baby independently through Loma Vista. He fulfilled his Def Jam contract obligations on his own terms, structured his exit correctly, kept his masters, kept every dollar of his creative output, and walked out with full ownership of his music. No gatekeepers. No suits. No label telling him what he's allowed to create.
But in our opinion the real story isn't just that he went independent. It's what he revealed about why he had to. Vince went on Drink Champs and said that when he made Big Fish Theory — his electronic album — his team wanted to list it under electronic and dance on streaming platforms. The label said no. A Black artist making electronic music and they told him he didn't belong in that category. Meanwhile Post Malone switches to country and gets a Grammy category and a cowboy hat. Machine Gun Kelly goes rock and it's a redemption arc. Vince Staples steps outside hip hop and suddenly there's a problem.
He also said labels deliberately hide your streaming data. They don't show you your real numbers — because if you knew you pulled three million streams in three days on your own, you'd walk into every meeting with a completely different face. In our opinion that's not business. That's manipulation. That's your landlord collecting rent from ten tenants and only telling you about three of them — while telling you the building is barely breaking even.
Vince found out the building was full. And he left.
GRISELDA — THE LESSON FOR WHAT HAPPENS WITHOUT THE PAPERWORK
Westside Gunn. Conway the Machine. Benny the Butcher. Three brothers from Buffalo who built one of the most respected independent labels in hip hop history with no major label money and no industry cosign. Griselda proved the independent model worked at the highest level and inspired a generation of artists to believe they could do it themselves.
But here's what's coming out now. Jay-Z — the man who owns his masters, his publishing, his streaming platform, his management company, and reportedly a small municipality somewhere — reportedly walked into a room with them and suggested Westside Gunn give Conway and Benny 10% equity in Griselda. Five percent each. Hov came with the business advice. And Gunn said no.
Conway has his own imprint now. Benny has his own imprint. And the collective that changed independent hip hop is fractured.
In our opinion both sides of this have merit. Westside Gunn built Griselda. He created the sound and the brand. Benny himself said West is the sole owner — that was always the structure. But you cannot separate Griselda from Conway and Benny's contributions. They ARE the brand. And the question Chris and Chidi sit with tonight is whether what was built together can ever fully belong to one person.
The connection between both stories is the same lesson. Vince got out of the major label trap by reading the fine print before he signed. Griselda built something historic without any fine print at all. And now the brotherhood is three separate business cards.
Independence is the goal. But independence without clear agreements is just a different kind of trap.
This is Everything Is. New episodes every weekday. No filter. No sugarcoating.
🔔 Subscribe and hit the bell — live Monday through Friday at 9:30 Eastern.
👇 Was Westside Gunn wrong to say no to Jay-Z's advice? And is Vince Staples the new blueprint for Black artists in music? Drop your take.
#everythingis #vincestaples #griselda #westsidegunn #conwaythemachine #bennythebutcher #crybaby #blackownership #hiphopmasters #everythingispodcast #blackpodcast #jayz #independentmusic #ownourmasters #everythingischidi #defJam #vincestaplesindie #griseldabeef #hiphobbusiness #musicindustry
Видео Everything Is 027 | Everything is Fine Print & the Blueprint канала Everything Is Podcast
Everybody talks about step one — getting free from the label system, owning your masters, building independent. Tonight on Everything Is, Chris and Chidi talk about step two. What happens after you own it? And what happens when the people who built it with you want a piece of what you built?
VINCE STAPLES — THE BLUEPRINT FOR HOW TO DO IT RIGHT
Vince Staples just dropped Cry Baby independently through Loma Vista. He fulfilled his Def Jam contract obligations on his own terms, structured his exit correctly, kept his masters, kept every dollar of his creative output, and walked out with full ownership of his music. No gatekeepers. No suits. No label telling him what he's allowed to create.
But in our opinion the real story isn't just that he went independent. It's what he revealed about why he had to. Vince went on Drink Champs and said that when he made Big Fish Theory — his electronic album — his team wanted to list it under electronic and dance on streaming platforms. The label said no. A Black artist making electronic music and they told him he didn't belong in that category. Meanwhile Post Malone switches to country and gets a Grammy category and a cowboy hat. Machine Gun Kelly goes rock and it's a redemption arc. Vince Staples steps outside hip hop and suddenly there's a problem.
He also said labels deliberately hide your streaming data. They don't show you your real numbers — because if you knew you pulled three million streams in three days on your own, you'd walk into every meeting with a completely different face. In our opinion that's not business. That's manipulation. That's your landlord collecting rent from ten tenants and only telling you about three of them — while telling you the building is barely breaking even.
Vince found out the building was full. And he left.
GRISELDA — THE LESSON FOR WHAT HAPPENS WITHOUT THE PAPERWORK
Westside Gunn. Conway the Machine. Benny the Butcher. Three brothers from Buffalo who built one of the most respected independent labels in hip hop history with no major label money and no industry cosign. Griselda proved the independent model worked at the highest level and inspired a generation of artists to believe they could do it themselves.
But here's what's coming out now. Jay-Z — the man who owns his masters, his publishing, his streaming platform, his management company, and reportedly a small municipality somewhere — reportedly walked into a room with them and suggested Westside Gunn give Conway and Benny 10% equity in Griselda. Five percent each. Hov came with the business advice. And Gunn said no.
Conway has his own imprint now. Benny has his own imprint. And the collective that changed independent hip hop is fractured.
In our opinion both sides of this have merit. Westside Gunn built Griselda. He created the sound and the brand. Benny himself said West is the sole owner — that was always the structure. But you cannot separate Griselda from Conway and Benny's contributions. They ARE the brand. And the question Chris and Chidi sit with tonight is whether what was built together can ever fully belong to one person.
The connection between both stories is the same lesson. Vince got out of the major label trap by reading the fine print before he signed. Griselda built something historic without any fine print at all. And now the brotherhood is three separate business cards.
Independence is the goal. But independence without clear agreements is just a different kind of trap.
This is Everything Is. New episodes every weekday. No filter. No sugarcoating.
🔔 Subscribe and hit the bell — live Monday through Friday at 9:30 Eastern.
👇 Was Westside Gunn wrong to say no to Jay-Z's advice? And is Vince Staples the new blueprint for Black artists in music? Drop your take.
#everythingis #vincestaples #griselda #westsidegunn #conwaythemachine #bennythebutcher #crybaby #blackownership #hiphopmasters #everythingispodcast #blackpodcast #jayz #independentmusic #ownourmasters #everythingischidi #defJam #vincestaplesindie #griseldabeef #hiphobbusiness #musicindustry
Видео Everything Is 027 | Everything is Fine Print & the Blueprint канала Everything Is Podcast
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