Ian Brown: career-spanning interview by John Robb

Ian Brown in ultra rare interview from 2004 gives John Robb a complete career overview.

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00:00:00 - Blackpool, ’89.
The first time seeing the crowd that had bought the album. Being shocked to see that everyone was dressed like them.
00:02:09 - Doing something special. Not the ‘traditional circuit’.Keep it in line with the underground party atmosphere.
00:05:00 - The famous money shirt!
00:06:04 - The Manchester scene
00:06:37 - early days at the Hacienda
00:07:52 - The sudden change at the Hacienda. House music / Acid House / Mike Pickering
00:09:26 - Es and House Music
00:11:48 - Ecstasy -
00:12:34 - Kitchen days and other clubs
00:13:59 - ‘We hadn’t took Es before we’d made those songs’
00:14:12 - ‘We weren’t Acid House - we were still guitars and 60s beats’.
00:14:32 - ‘We were about community, love, uplifting, positivity, nothing can stop us,'
00:15:30 - Blackpool gig - capturing the rave atmosphere
00:15:50 - ‘The city is behind us. They want us to make it.
00:16:59 - Did Gareth understand Acid House?
00:24:10 - Ally Pally, ’89
00:26:00 - Spike Island
00:26:46 - Roses were pioneers
00:27:37 - Arriving in the back of a transit van
00:27:54 - The vibe in the band at this point
00:28:28 - ‘I wish we had a better chorus for One Love’
00:29:13 - Should have been a Fool’s Gold album - funkier.
00:29:31 - Glasgow Green - the ultimate Roses gig
00:30:15 - Court case
00:31:15 - ‘Shit! We’ve made this masterpiece and we’ve got to follow it up’
00:31:30 - We had some really good tunes in the works
00:31:35 - We’d be editing ourselves. Ian and John spend 2 weeks in Italy in ‘90.
00:32:24 - Mr. Shitehawk
00:32:51 - Court case fucked us up.
00:33:13 - Stopped by the music business
00:35:23 - David Geffenl (if you win it, sign with me!).
00:35:50 - Getting out of the deal.
00:37:03 - ‘Suddenly we had kids and responsibilities. It wasn’t the gang.
00:38:51 - Top of the Pops
00:39:04 - Sharing the dressing room with the Mondays
00:39:10 - Tony Wilson persuades them not to swap about on the instruments with the Mondays
00:39:52 - ‘It was ace to share success with Mondays’.
00:41:48 - Jan ’93. Starting the second album.
00:42:25 - John Leckie
00:45:20 - Leckie leaves and it was all downhill from there
00:45:27 - Sept ’94, the album is finished.
00:45:48 - How do you follow up a generational album?
00:47:40 - I didn’t want to make a dark album. I don’t like dark music.
00:50:53 - Reni leaves the band
00:53:13 - Robbie Maddox
00:53:47 - The world tour. Wembly. John leaves the band.
00:54:20 - Reni, Mani and John’s love of Led Zeppelin
00:57:23 - ‘There’s a couple of songs I still think are shit’
00:57:57 - what could have been the second album
00:58:43 - The most amazing drummer
00:58:49 - ‘I’m the biggest Roses fans because I used to get to see them jamming for hours’
1:01:56 - Pretty well unravelled. The new, new Stone Roses
1:02:24 - Aziz Ibrahim enters the band
1:02:56 - Reading Festival: Slash offers to play and ridicule.
1:04:20 - Stop the band
1:06:04 - Coming out of the Roses with nothing, ready to sign on.
1:06:28 - Disillusioned with music.
1:07:04 - Moving to Lymm and writing songs with Nigel, Robbie and Aziz.
1:09:14- Going solo!
1:09:46 - Making Monkey Business - a series of demos
01:11:57 - ‘My Star’ comes out
01:12:13 - Getting signed to Polydor Records
01:13:48 - It needed to be honest.
01:14:48 - ‘Suddenly, I was back into music’
01:14:51 - Signing the contract: ‘I’m not a man, I’m a music lawyer’
01:16:26 - Monkey Business!
01:18:00 - I didn’t have any plans for gigs.
01:18:20- ‘As far as I was concerned, I’d been in the best band…I didn’t have any ambitions to play any shows…I was just happy to get the record released’
01:18:36 - ‘I’ll put a band together’
01:21:06 - Meeting Oasis
01:23:11 - Alternative music was getting bigger and bigger - we were told ‘not to dream of getting in the charts’
01:25:08 - Manchester and Liverpool being different ends of the same city
01:26:04 - the following albums
01:26:09 - How you tighten it up is to programme it all
01:26:38 - The hottest kid in town: Dave McCraken
01:30:01 - Golden Greats - I want someone who can mix it. Make it sound good on the window cleaner’s radio, a 5 grand stereo, a car radio. Enter Steve Fitzmaurice.
01:30:38 - Dave Gilmour’s boat
01:31:16 - All the pink Floyd crew were looking after us.
01:31:27 - The fourth one. Getting my hands dirty again.
01:31:49 - Enjoying the freedom of not being in a band.
01:32:39 - ‘I see it like a full circle now. ‘The first one sounds like a demo - rough and ready, and the last one sort of slick, with slick beats and a full orchestra’.
01:32:59 - I treat each one like it’s my last opportunity.
01:33:45 - An ad hoc approach to making records. Almost like diaries.
01:34:22- ‘For the next one…I’m not looking at changing music. I just want 12 great songs’.
01:34:46 - ‘Outside of my own fans, I don’t feel like the English media got behind me’.

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