Combat Story (Ep 30) + SOB Tactical: John "Shrek" McPhee (Rd 2) & Ryan Fugit | Delta | Aviator | CIA
Today we have a unique episode where I (Ryan Fugit) share my own combat story as SOB Tactical founder and retired Delta Force Sergeant Major John “Shrek” McPhee interviews yours truly.
Do not be fooled, however. Although John helps me tell my origin story growing up overseas, and going on to be an Apache helicopter pilot and CIA officer, we hear more amazing insights from John’s career as well.
In this episode, John and I talk about combat, losing friends, growing up, and swapping stories about our experiences as a pilot and Delta operator that many outside the profession have never heard...such as ‘flying the bag’ and the ‘Mr. Goodbar’ test. John even takes a moment to put on a sweater that used to belong to Saddam Hussein.
I hope you enjoy this wide ranging, real, and whiskey-filled interview as much as we did.
#deltaforce #delta #apache #cia #helicopter #army #veteran #combat #johnmcphee #sobtactical #sheriffofbaghdad #greenberets #rangers #rltw #army #veterans #OEF #OIF #combatstory
Show Notes
0:00 - Intro
1:21 - Episode preview
2:12 - Let the games begin
3:29 – Talking about whiskey
6:25 – The reason for starting the Combat Story Podcast
9:46 – Ryan’s origin story
14:00 – The little guy in southern Africa
15:44 – Living in Pakistan in the middle of the Gulf War
16:41 – “These bodyguards pulled me out back and put a gun to my head.”
19:50 – Being back in the United States
22:55 – “I ended up going to college, but even when I was there, I was antsy to get out and go do stuff and just be on my own a little bit more.”
24:30 – Ryan’s experience with Channing Tatum aka Chan Tatum aka Magic Mike
26:10 – The problem with social media
25:06 - People don’t understand the premise of the American life.
29:30 – “Don’t even share with me. It’s not that I don’t want to know. I do, but I know anything in my head can be gotten out.”
30:10 – Keeping in touch with others
32:21– “I’ve tried to be the better friend, the better dad, the better buddy, the better Ranger buddy, the better Green Beret.”
34:57 – “How great you were today, tomorrow they don’t need you.”
37:17 – The unfortunate truth
37:55 – The D-Day Jump
41:56 – “I believe we’re in the longest peace this planet has ever seen post World War Two.”
49:07 – What it’s like learning to hover
57:30 – Inherently dangerous training. “Injuries and loss happen every day, no matter what your level is.”
1:12:35 – Air Medals for ground guys.
1:19:21 – Importance of flexibility. “Flexibility makes you a formidable enemy.”
1:23:05 – Flying the “Bag“ and teaching yourself how to fly with one eye.
1:27:37 - The “Mr. Goodbar” Test at Delta where “If you do what has been taught to you, people won’t fight you when you walk out.“ John and one-on-one situations.
1:34:30 – Performance-based unit and how “Nobody cares as long as you’re doing your job in combat.”
1:40:20 – Ryan’s worst near-death experience story
1:47:50 - Defining failure, “acceptable failure,” and how “Wisdom is knowing better.”
1:48:51 – “You should be making mistakes. Mistakes teach you what works, what doesn’t. You got to make mistakes.”
1:49:24 – Ryan leaving the military
1:55:27 – The Saddam Sweater
2:05:43 – John’s thought of he was meant to do
2:10:34 – A piece of American History
2:11:17 – “You can’t regret what you didn’t do if you try everything you want to do.”
2:13:50 – Near death experiences. “You’re supposed to live through this near-death experience and feel like every day is a gift, but it’s not—it doesn’t feel that way.”
2:16:43 – John’s near death experience. “Never do a shoot behind, except when you have to.”
2:22:43 – The one guy John won’t mess with. “I’m not going to stand with you toe to toe. I’m going to catch you when you least expect it.”
2:24:03 – “The unit in training will always give you scenarios that can’t be solved.”
2:32:34 - The difference between guys who test well or fight well.
Listen to Ryan’s other Combat Stories wherever you get your podcasts or at www.combatstory.com.
You can find Ryan on Instagram @combat_stories.
Find John Online:
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sobtactical/
SOB Tactical - https://sobtactical.com/
SOB TV - https://watch.sobtactical.com/
Booze N Views - https://watch.sobtactical.com/booze-n-views
Видео Combat Story (Ep 30) + SOB Tactical: John "Shrek" McPhee (Rd 2) & Ryan Fugit | Delta | Aviator | CIA канала Combat Story
Do not be fooled, however. Although John helps me tell my origin story growing up overseas, and going on to be an Apache helicopter pilot and CIA officer, we hear more amazing insights from John’s career as well.
In this episode, John and I talk about combat, losing friends, growing up, and swapping stories about our experiences as a pilot and Delta operator that many outside the profession have never heard...such as ‘flying the bag’ and the ‘Mr. Goodbar’ test. John even takes a moment to put on a sweater that used to belong to Saddam Hussein.
I hope you enjoy this wide ranging, real, and whiskey-filled interview as much as we did.
#deltaforce #delta #apache #cia #helicopter #army #veteran #combat #johnmcphee #sobtactical #sheriffofbaghdad #greenberets #rangers #rltw #army #veterans #OEF #OIF #combatstory
Show Notes
0:00 - Intro
1:21 - Episode preview
2:12 - Let the games begin
3:29 – Talking about whiskey
6:25 – The reason for starting the Combat Story Podcast
9:46 – Ryan’s origin story
14:00 – The little guy in southern Africa
15:44 – Living in Pakistan in the middle of the Gulf War
16:41 – “These bodyguards pulled me out back and put a gun to my head.”
19:50 – Being back in the United States
22:55 – “I ended up going to college, but even when I was there, I was antsy to get out and go do stuff and just be on my own a little bit more.”
24:30 – Ryan’s experience with Channing Tatum aka Chan Tatum aka Magic Mike
26:10 – The problem with social media
25:06 - People don’t understand the premise of the American life.
29:30 – “Don’t even share with me. It’s not that I don’t want to know. I do, but I know anything in my head can be gotten out.”
30:10 – Keeping in touch with others
32:21– “I’ve tried to be the better friend, the better dad, the better buddy, the better Ranger buddy, the better Green Beret.”
34:57 – “How great you were today, tomorrow they don’t need you.”
37:17 – The unfortunate truth
37:55 – The D-Day Jump
41:56 – “I believe we’re in the longest peace this planet has ever seen post World War Two.”
49:07 – What it’s like learning to hover
57:30 – Inherently dangerous training. “Injuries and loss happen every day, no matter what your level is.”
1:12:35 – Air Medals for ground guys.
1:19:21 – Importance of flexibility. “Flexibility makes you a formidable enemy.”
1:23:05 – Flying the “Bag“ and teaching yourself how to fly with one eye.
1:27:37 - The “Mr. Goodbar” Test at Delta where “If you do what has been taught to you, people won’t fight you when you walk out.“ John and one-on-one situations.
1:34:30 – Performance-based unit and how “Nobody cares as long as you’re doing your job in combat.”
1:40:20 – Ryan’s worst near-death experience story
1:47:50 - Defining failure, “acceptable failure,” and how “Wisdom is knowing better.”
1:48:51 – “You should be making mistakes. Mistakes teach you what works, what doesn’t. You got to make mistakes.”
1:49:24 – Ryan leaving the military
1:55:27 – The Saddam Sweater
2:05:43 – John’s thought of he was meant to do
2:10:34 – A piece of American History
2:11:17 – “You can’t regret what you didn’t do if you try everything you want to do.”
2:13:50 – Near death experiences. “You’re supposed to live through this near-death experience and feel like every day is a gift, but it’s not—it doesn’t feel that way.”
2:16:43 – John’s near death experience. “Never do a shoot behind, except when you have to.”
2:22:43 – The one guy John won’t mess with. “I’m not going to stand with you toe to toe. I’m going to catch you when you least expect it.”
2:24:03 – “The unit in training will always give you scenarios that can’t be solved.”
2:32:34 - The difference between guys who test well or fight well.
Listen to Ryan’s other Combat Stories wherever you get your podcasts or at www.combatstory.com.
You can find Ryan on Instagram @combat_stories.
Find John Online:
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sobtactical/
SOB Tactical - https://sobtactical.com/
SOB TV - https://watch.sobtactical.com/
Booze N Views - https://watch.sobtactical.com/booze-n-views
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