A Miraculous discussion with Karomix3: Curse of Chloé or Frienemies + Not letting things go & more

Me and Star Guardian Niom (https://www.youtube.com/user/karomix3) Talk about spoilers/leaks of Season 5 final results along with characters during this, next or previous seasons.

If you can see but you refuse to see,
you can move and be lucky
or fall or suffer later

Some are lucky others are not
It's been revealed too late for one but change is possible for who's still stuck
Another changed earlier who was bitter for much longer more time so yes
Sometimes you need to go beyond what is only known and hang on

Welp time to listen to Move Along again lol

Miraculous Discussion Timestamps
0:00 What Miraculous Things I and @Karomix3 will talk about
0:43 Conversation between me and Karomix3 Start

1:02 What I think about the Season 5 Ending that seems cool for all but Chloe (Things aren't always what the seem to be at first sight). Yay for Hawk Moth again though.
1:43 Adrien life will not suck as much it seems
1:58 But Marinette/Ladybug knows the truth so what will she do?
3:09 Cool for Lila sucks for Chloe
3:50 There are those near to worse than Chloé but why things appear to unmiraculous for Chloé
4:16 *Shrugs* and Zoé power distortion and Marinette is not a hater towards Zoé
4:49 My thoughts on Lila and Chloe joining forces and things not going well for Chloe still
5:50 Zoe's new father disappoints me
5:59 This unfortunately may have to be what Chloé has to face

7:08 What Karomix3 thinks (Adrian Agreste shouldn't be kept from the truth)
7:30 What Karomix3 sees from Chloé wish (Things are not what Chloe saw at 1st sight)
11:11 Karomix3 comparing Jalil and 5 other antagonists reasons for Hawkmoth's to come to them
11:58 Karomix3 talks about other mean/jerk characters (Kim, Alec, Bob Roth, XY, Miss Mendeleiev

13:06 Looking up who Jalil is and rambling of characters I don't like

14:39 Karomix3 says they'd probably trade Chloe with anyone after Love Eater/Miracle Queen (with taking briefly of Ryuko (Kagami Tsurugi)
16:26 Karomix3 Talking of Zoé

17:37 Season 4 that turned me away (alternatively why I kind of lack care of Zoé).

19:21 Kagami did nothing wrong, Chloe Bourgeois threatened and Marinette Dupain Cheng is an IDIOT

22:47 Me Briefly talking about Marinette's delusions of Lila taking her dream with Adrien away in that Miraculous Rise Of The Sphinx video game

23:03 Karomix3 isn't sure about Lila ditching Chloe like when Hawk Moth abandoned Queen Bee
23:20 Karomix3 do see that Lila Rossi war speech to Marinette is going to Chloé Bourgeois mostly instead
23:31 Karomix3 telling how Chloé's desire was granted but no longer what it seems and first sight
26:30 Karomix3 talking of how Chloé trapped in the temptation hour glass
29:27 Karomix3 explains that an undesirable path may be the only way Chloe will really change

31:41 I guess there are no other options really (unless something miraculous happens)
32:05 So that's who Alix Kubdel's brother is. Jalil Kubdel.

32:48 Karomix3 says Alya kind of had it coming (still, Chloe calling daddy ability play with others lives)
33:23 Karomix3 briefly explaining André Bourgeois is not the ruler of everything
33:52 Karomix3 briefly talks about Alec Cataldi

34:48 Since you reawakened my thoughts of Alec (me saying really supportive was an exaggeration though)

36:53 Karomix3 thinks Bob Roth will probably never change, Audrey response while Chloe exposed on live was deserved

37:16 Me talking about Ladybug's destructive unwavering resolve moment and why public vs private matters when it comes to inexperienced and experienced idiot

40:10 Karomix3 talking about Ms Mendeleiev

41:46 Those are fine responses and a new way I see the unfairness what's been going on in Marinette's school thanks to Chloe's lingering effects

43:16 Karomix3 talks about when kids grow out of control and remaining unchecked

43:33 You have a lot on your mind to talk about for ML

43:55 Karomix3 talks about when she's been during Miraculous and her rant buddies discussing Ladybug

45:15 Rossi is something and I'm a salt fic avoided too

45:45 Karomix3 talks more about herself

47:47 Karomix3 talking of difference between Chloe the Scout and Lila The Spy and Sniper while amusing me
48:01 Karomix3 likes salt fics that deconstruct the salt fic genre

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