Loyal Rue pt 4C: "Nature Is Enough" (w Barlow and Dowd)

00:36 table of contents of Loyal Rue’s “Nature is Enough” is shown onscreen
01:00 CB: subsection of book to discuss: “The Promise of Religious Naturalism”
01:33 quotes from Rue’s book “Everybody’s Story” read aloud by Michael and Loyal
03:20 CB & LR: the “epic of cosmogenesis” as the compelling aspect of religious naturalism
05:28 LR: religious naturalism will prevail if environmental overshoot and societal collapse ensue
06:45 CB: that’s the “personal wholeness” side of “naturalizing religion and sacralizing nature”
07:26 MD: no need for everyone to become a religious naturalist; religions must re-sacralize nature
08:04 MD: cites Bron Taylor and his book “Dark Green Religion”
08:34 MD: agrees with Loyal that overshoot, societal collapse, and human die-off is likely
09:16 MD: the mechanistic worldview (God outside of nature) promotes “spiritual autism”
09:42 MD: characterizes plight as our being “prodigal species” in a time of “Great Reckoning”
10:21 MD: “The current theist–atheist debate is a form of collective insanity.”
11:15 LR: promoting religious naturalism now will better prepare humanity to recover after collapse
11:49 MD & LR: debate if naturalistic metaphysics is foundational for achieving ecological values
15:14 CB: how epic of evolution promotes ecological values by expanding our identity
16:51 CB: practical side of epic of evolution (human nature as “mismatched”) elevates naturalism
18:15 MD: naturalistic understanding of human instincts is crucial for addictions therapy
23:10 LR: (1) increase knowledge, (2) deepen understanding, (3) expand scope of affections
23:55 MD: evidence that biblical literalism fails to heal today’s social ills
25:06 CB: how deep-time evokes emotional therapy via real and imagined ancestral stories of suffering
28:32 MD: story of African-American woman finding strength in stories of enslaved ancestors
30:11 LR: how he remembers the suffering of those who built and lived in this old cabin
31:23 CB: how learning the DNA details of ancestry deepens our personal stories of suffering
34:02 MD: how mechanistic view not only de-sacralized nature but trivialized God
35:10 MD: “the triple idolatries: written word, otherworldly, beliefs”
36:09 LR: agnostics as “most spiritually responsible” v. dangers of zealous belief
37:04 MD: privileging “evidence-based” transcends the theism-atheism-agnosticism debate
37:39 LR: patterns of history have traditionally led the religious to discern God’s will
38:23 MD: advocates “Big History” and David Christian’s online course by that title
39:10 CB: not convinced that we need to “naturalize religion” but do need to “sacralize nature”
39:41 CB: of Michael’s 6-point credo, “ecology is my theology” is key for Connie
40:32 ALL: why naturalizing religions is key evolving them toward ecological values
42:36 MD: advocates 3 books on “evolutionary significance of religion”
43:36 ALL: religion does not require a “supernatural” element or belief
44:50 CB: indigenous oral cultures benefitted by evolving beliefs, unlike text-based religions
46:57 list of titles of all 7 videos in the Loyal Rue discussion series 2014

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